>>11143You suggested that they don't think about it which is obviously a lie. For 2 minutes or 24 hours. It doesn't matter.
The so called people you have met are the contrarian ones OR they are not evil and might even be shameful on their past endeavors into alcohol. The third reason, which is probably the most likely, is that they say they don't think about it as an expression and without the full comprehension of what it means to not think about something.
An old monk helped a prostitute across a river.
That was haram, said a younger monk.
Still helping her across the river I see, said the old monk.